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John Ratcliffe
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Posted - 2013.08.26 16:53:00 -
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Darius Brinn wrote:
As I said, a drone CONTROL RANGE bonus to the Rattlesnake:
1) Would make it more useful in both PvP and PvE
2) Would NOT be a drone tracking speed bonus like the Domi, which Domi whiners would surely appreciate.
This is a really stupid idea. The RS already has two utility High slots for Drone Links. I do not need or want more control range. I believe the RS needs the Drone Tracking bonus the Domi has. I couldn't care less what Domi owners think about that.
Make it happen CCP.
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Posted - 2013.08.29 10:42:00 -
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Marcus Walkuris wrote:I fly Rattler so clearly it needs buffed.
Trolling aside it's missing something indeed.
I think it needs a velocity buff IMHO.
Also the buff to missile velocity only has real applications to torpedoes as 4 unbuffed launchers are a joke in pvp and lackluster in pve since missiles synergize poorly with drones due to their delayed damage.
Cruise missiles with 50% faster flight time get to almost twice your base targetting range.
The amount of face palm sillyness that comes with the hull detract a lot from how respectable it is in pve and how well it performs even compared to the cookiecutter BS out there.
For the love of science though, give that boat a velocity buff it's like the only pirate ship slower then its standard BS cousins and that I call rubbish.
Oh FFS! Wake up man! It's a Drone hull, the bonuses should be Drone bonuses before missile bonuses.
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Posted - 2013.08.29 10:49:00 -
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Darius Brinn wrote:
I'm looking at alternatives. CCP won't resort to the "easy" solution of giving the Rattlesnake the same set of drone bonus that the Dominix got, so it's useless to keep mentioning that.
Why? Because you say so? There is NO reason whatsoever why the RS shouldn't have the same Drone bonuses as the Domi. It's a Drone Pirate BS FFS - if anything it should have the best Drone bonuses of any ship in the game.
Quote:I suggested the drone control range, because it's generally considered "not dangerous". Nobody would say it makes the Rattlesnake overpowered.
It's a stupid suggestion. The bonus should be something useful - Drone Control Range can be easily achieved with a couple of Drone Links. If they give the RS the bonuses you want then what are you going to put in the utility Highs? The Domi Drone bonuses are what the RS should get.
Quote:And also because standard Cruises on a Rattlesnake hit past 200Km without modules, implants or rigs for damage projection (double of its locking range, which is a waste), but the drones are restricted to 100ish Km, even the longest reaching ones (Wardens). This looks like a sort of inconsistency.
WTF are you on about? I can make Bouncers hit out to over 180KM with 3 Faction omnis. If CCP want to do something useful with CMs on the RS, then they need to either a. give it more Launchers, or b. give the Launchers a damage bonus and Explosive Radius reduction bonus. Personally, I'd rather see the RS be a fully focused Drone hull.
Quote:If you have any other proposals to bring the Rattlesnake in line with the rest of the pirate battleships (other than asking for the Dominix tracking bonus), I'm all for them too.
You need to accept you're in the minority as far as the Domi bonuses are concerned.
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Posted - 2013.09.02 12:25:00 -
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Darius Brinn wrote:No, YOU CANNOT, because your drone control range will barely get past 100 Km unless you completely forgo your FOUR launchers. You cannot shoot with Sentries beyond your drone control range, whatever your Bouncer stats read when you click on it.
How many missions need you to shoot past 100KM? There's a couple that spring to mind that have NPCs between 100 - 110 KM, but that's it. Certainly as far as Caldari space is concerned.
I was messing around with a T1 Domi fit in EFT during my lunch break today and to prove a point, made this:
Bouncer: Optimal (147.5KM) FO (42KM)
Drone Control Range: (180KM)
Targeting Range: (176.5KM)
[Dominix, PVE]
Drone Damage Amplifier II
Drone Damage Amplifier II
Drone Damage Amplifier II
Corpus A-Type Armor Thermic Hardener
Corpus A-Type Armor Kinetic Hardener
Corpus A-Type Large Armor Repairer
Signal Amplifier II
Sensor Booster II, Targeting Range Script
Federation Navy Omnidirectional Tracking Link
Federation Navy Omnidirectional Tracking Link
Gist A-Type 100MN Afterburner
Cap Recharger II
Drone Link Augmentor II
Drone Link Augmentor II
Drone Link Augmentor II
Drone Link Augmentor II
Drone Link Augmentor II
Small Shield Transporter II
Large Anti-Explosive Pump II
Large Capacitor Control Circuit II
Large Capacitor Control Circuit II
Garde II x5
Bouncer II x5
You couldn't get anything close to that package on a RS. It's a pointless fit though for PVE because you'd never need that much range, but it makes my point.
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Posted - 2013.09.02 13:32:00 -
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Enduros wrote:Pve isn't just your Lvl4s.
Accepted.
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